This is an email we received from someone who does not think God
is real. While there are many ways to see that God is real (read
Romans 1:19 for example) this dicussion focuses primarily on science
and the Bible.
The email we received are reproduced here, exactly as we received
them . Within the email are links to the answers to each point raised
in the email.
God is a made up idealogy. there is NO proof, no
fact, it is as much fantasy as the tooth fairy. why can't you people
accept that religion and myth is an allegory and get on with science,
reality, truth and your own mortality like a sane person instead
of lollygagging around basking in the afterlife fairytale you have
to beleive in order to get through the day. geez. you are an ape,
you have almost exactly the same dna as a chimp, you need to read
stephen hawkings (he was smarter than jesus) and the string theory
and wake up and smell the reality.
A significant number of the emails like this
used to be sent with false return addresses. Since we've changed
our email form so that a return address
is not required, that has no longer been a problem. But at the time
this was written it became our standard policy to quetion whether
the return address was real before putting a lot of time into writing
a reply. I'm glad to say that in this case it was real.
Thank you for writing.
I'm guessing that the email address you gave is not real. But, if
my reply does not bounce I'll be glad to follow up and answer your
questions, because--if you do look at the scientific evidence, it
shows God exists.
Yours in Christ,
Mission to America
first, show me the money!!!! show
me where god exists, please, i am really waiting on this one.
go ahead, impress me with your god sleuthing. point me to it!!!!
i challenge you.
is ridiculous for you to think that my email is made up because
i have religious views different than yours!!!! what a breath of
predictable and stale air you are!!!
there is NO scientific evidence that god
is responsible for the origin of earth or saturn or the sun
that is not based on fake, junk, fundamentalist, creationist, intelligent
design "pseudo-science". there is not one single scientific
school of thought that is accepted in scientific circles of
accept thought that aligns itself with creationist "junk science".
and even if there was an adam and eve, they
were hairy apes if in fact they were created at the beginning
of man on earth. remember man as you know it did not exist, he walked
on all fours. his dna was very much like ours . . . since we are
all descended from apes.
when i die, i will
take a dirt nap and that is all. when you die, you will take
a dirt nap and that is all.
most religion was co-opted ritual forms
of pagans and other earth religions. organized religion could collect
money, wield untold power, organize the masses, frighten and scare,
make things happen, align itself with politics and make powerful
the word, means country dweller, and that is all it means. it
is not a dirty word. pagan practices pre-date any organized religion.
religion as you know it was like the gap and old navy, it had to
make money to be viable, it had to have a label and multiply and
spread to stay alive. paganism was content being what it was. pagans
practiced all the rituals that were eventually co-opted as holy
days. wreaths, hollys, candle lighting, incense, days of celebration
and merriment and days of reflection of inner life, clandestine
books of wisdom, acknowledgement of the seasons, herbology, celebrations
- these were all counterparts of the pagan way of life - all co-opted
by organized religion.
in america, we
killed all the native americans in the name of "god",
because we wanted the indians to be "god fearing" and
they protested, and we also wanted the land so populate america
with more saintly folks with white skin since i am sure these american
infidels were stupid enough to think that the world was still flat
and jesus was white with blue eyes and straight hair. our god-loving
united states government sent
typhus infected "peace offerings" in the form of warming
blankets to the indians to exterminate the men, women and childre
and then forcefully dislocated cherokee's on a death march called
"the trail of tears" (does this remind you of anyone in
the 1940s??). of course, getting rid of the savage native indian
and their wives and children and their earth-loving ways just made
a good god-fearing american want to sit in the first row at church
on sunday and sing their hymns so proudly.
design theorists (i hate to throw around the word theory in
the same sentence as intelligent design) because theory in science
and mathematics is a developed thing with checks and balances in
place and intelligent design in an "idea" that you want
to be a real good idea, because if you can convince people with
low IQs that this is real, then you might start a movement and you
did that. congratulations. but a wolf in sheep's clothing is not
a sheep. and a real good idea that you just gotta believe is NOT
a theory and a scientific theory is not what you think it is.
i know of no intelligent person in the universe
who can argue the existence of what you believe in, who can win
any debate on the origin of the universe or win over or convince
or otherwise appear knowledgeable on the origin of the universe,
the species, or your dna against any educated
religion and the god-fearing leanings come
from the area in the brain known as the limbic
system. intelligent design theorists, fundamental evangelists,
people who believe in noah's ark, or that the dinosaurs walked the
earth 5000 years ago are in my opinion
a very scary lot of humans indeed. i want to stay away from the
likes of you. i don't want to socialize with you nor do i want my
children playing with your children, since you live in a fairyland.
you make for good amusement in the universe
but no one takes you seriously, except
the most ignorant, emotionally needy, disenfranchised, and spiritually
bankrupt, stupid, unartful, misinformed. while i am sure that you
feel that i am insulting you, just remember how often people just
like you and perhaps even you too, would not hesitate to tell me
that i and my children will burn in hell and el diablo will be waiting
to stick a pitchfork in my unsaved children.
everything jesus said was regurgitated lao
tzu who lived before jesus. lao tzu's book is the most translated
in human history, right after the bible. pretty amazing for an unknown
like lao tzu. i guess he just does
not have enough hype surrounding him, like benny hinn or the
popoffs, those idiots on tv. how can jesus have said the things
he did?? because these sayings were not original thoughts. what
jesus said was universal thought far before he walked the earth.
he was the son of god: he meant he was a child
of the universe, which is the same thing.
if god created the earth, then why
didn't he tell us in genesis that he created black holes, orion,
or that the earth moved around the sun??? didn't he know what he
created??? why on earth, in his BOOK, would he not divulge what
he created??? did he forget??? isn't is possible that genesis had
some serious spin put on it but whomever wrote it???
have faith and that is all you need. with faith you get by.
with faith things come to pass. you trust what you read, what you
have been taught, what you are familiar with, what your heavenly
father and his son tells you, what comes to pass.
so consider this: as a child i believed
and trusted my parents. as a child i lost a tooth. and then another.
and each time i lost a tooth i faithfully placed it under my pillow.
and the next day there was always two shiny quarters and the tooth
was gone. i took the two shiny quarters to my parents and exclaimed:
"look what the tooth fairy left me". so as i lost my impermanent
teeth, the quarters added up. my faith was rewarded by putting the
teeth under the pillow and waking up and getting the quarters.
so i had faith, and my instructors in my
life - my earthly parents were "in on it" and were pulling
the strings behind the scenes. they put the quarters there each
time. they told me it was the tooth fairy. we all shared what i
thought was the same belief - there really WAS a tooth fairy!!!
so with faith you believe and what you believe comes to pass.
but guess what????? there
really isn't a tooth fairy!!!! but the quarters were real!!!!
it was a myth, and so is religion.
i can understand why you need religion.
you need it to give order to the
chaotic universe. who can blame you. but use religion as an allegory,
a myth based belief system to lead you to a place of wisdom, use
it as something to take a little bit from and use your own wisdom
to figure out the rest with the front lobes of your brain. it is
all you need.
remember, all creationist,
virgin birth, afterlife,
arising from the dead, light, dark,
springing forth when there was none, spirits
from other unseen realms, the spirit
world and real world colliding, miracles,
sons and daughters who are half earthlike
and half of the "gods, trinities
and other powers of numbers
of 3 or 7 of 12, the stars,
and the universe" and all the other "original" schools
of thoughts that your christianity tells you that is "original"
has in reality been written about thousands of years and in every
single culture on the planet long before jesus, the son of two humans,
was ever conceived in an act of human sexuality by his parents,
mary and joseph.
you know nothing about nothing and should
not have a website in the netropolis wasteland filling innocent
heads with talk of lies.
you are spreading emotionally-charged lies.
i do hope you know that.
Thank you for writing in more detail.
I have responded to many of the comments you made. I feel like I
could have commented on just about every line, but I've picked out
what appear to be some of the more important points. However, I'd
be pleased to discuss any specific questions you have, or specific
points from either your email or my responses.
Yours in Christ,
Mission to America