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Dimitrovgrad Russia, May 15, 2006
Genesis / Creation Seminar
Part I - Introduction / Creationism and Evolutionism
Let us pray: Father we give the next few
hours to you. Take them and use them as you want. We dedicate this
presentation and this time we have together into your hands.
Hello my name is Steve Hudgik. I've been invited to talk about
the Bible, creation and four basic questions. Where did the universe
come from? Where did we come from? Why am I here? Where am I going
when I die?
But, the first question I'd like to answer is: Who am I? Let me
I'm 54 years old and I love science and I love the Bible. My undergraduate
university degree is in electrical engineering. I love science and
engineering. I love figuring out how things work. I also have a
Masters degree in business and I'm a graduate of Multnomah Biblical
Seminary (GCB). I've been studying evolution and creation for the
past six years, I've written several articles about these topics
and have I taught this subject in churches and homes for the past
What we will be doing tonight and tomorrow evening is examining
evolution and creation, and seeing how well each matches reality.
Tonight we will define what we are talking about, learn what the
Bible says about creation, and then we'll start looking at the some
of the evidence, such as fossils and Mitochondrial DNA--and see
whether it fits the world the Bible describes or the world evolution
Tomorrow evening we will discuss subjects such as radiographic
dating, radio halos, what the Bible says about dinosaurs, and whether
or not dinosaurs and people lived together.
There are two objectives for this seminar. If you are a Christian,
my objective is that your faith will be strengthened as you see
that there is no conflict between science and the Bible. Science
reveals God's creation. If you are not a Christian, I'm not trying
to change your mind--although that may happen. You can make your
own choice. Make your own decisions based on the facts, based on
reality. You examine the evidence, and come to your own conclusion.
What we are going to do this evening and tomorrow evening is to
look at the evidence and see which belief best fits the observable
I also have some books about fossils, creation and the Bible that
I will be giving away at the end of tonight's session and again
tomorrow night. Please feel free to take a copy before you leave.
start with two questions: Where did the universe come from? Where
did we come from? Actually I think the question we each really want
to ask is, where did I come from?
What are the belief options for the origin of the universe? There
are two and only two. I've never heard anyone suggest a third possibility.
There are only two options: the universe was created or the universe
was not created.
So we have two beliefs: one we will call creationism - the belief
there is a God and he created everything. The other we will call
evolutionism, the belief that evolution took place over a time period
of billions of years.
We will use these two words throughout this seminar as the names
for the two opposing beliefs.
What is creationism? In brief, it is: In the beginning God
created the heavens and the earth. After God created the world something
sin and death entered the world. Eventually people
became so evil that God decided
to start over. The result was a catastrophic world-wide flood about
4,400 years ago that would form fossils all over the world. After
the flood God told people to spread across the earth, but they didn't,
instead they started a large public works project to build a huge
pyramid called the Tower of Babel. So God gave people different
languages, forcing them to separate and resulting in the formation
of the different people groups we have today. And people still disobeyed
God. Then Jesus Christ came to earth becoming a man. He lived a
perfect life, and then died on the cross paying the penalty we owe
for disobeying God. He then is raised from the dead proving there
is life after death.
What is evolutionism? It is the belief that chance, plus
time, plus natural processes-as opposed to supernatural processes-explain
everything. Evolutionism believes that the whole universe started
in one real small spot-and then there was a tremendous big bang.
Then over billions of years as the gases cooled down the objects
in the universe were formed, including our solar system. It also
teaches that man came up from the animals by a long series of evolutionary
Just so you know where I stand: I believe that God made a perfect
creation in six 24 hour days and that He did this about 6,000 years
ago. I've seen that this is true and it can be determined to be
true by scientific investigation as well as by faith.
By the way, I didn't always believe in creationism. Like you, I
was taught evolutionism in school. I loved reading, especially reading
about science. Everything I read said there was a big bang and we
evolved from the apes. I became a Christian when I was 48 years
old. When I became a Christian I still believed in evolutionism
becoming a Christian did not change by belief that the earth was
billions of years old and that we evolved from apes. Although the
Bible did seem to plainly say everything was created in six days,
I figured that I was not understanding the Bible correctly-because
as we can see just by looking at fossils buried
in layers of sediment, dinosaurs lived hundreds of millions of years
But the more I studied, the more I learned, the more I slowly changed
from believing in evolutionism to believing in creationism. Why
did I change my mind? Because of the scientific evidence that so
strongly points to the world being created exactly as the Bible
describes, and that there was a world-wide flood about 4,400 years
So we have two views about where the universe came from and where
we can from, evolutionism and creationism.
Before we talk about scientific evidence we need to have a basic
understanding of what the two opposing views are saying.
Where does evolutionism say everything came from? At one
time all the matter in the universe was compressed into a small
dot no bigger than the period at the end of a sentence. That dot
was spinning very fast. Then it exploded! That's called the big
bang. Matter from the big bang started cooling and collecting together,
through gravitational attraction, until stars and galaxies were
According to evolutionism, where did life come from? The
fact is no one's really sure, but the best guess is that life started
in the oceans when the proper combination of chemicals and energy
randomly came together to create a single living cell. That living
cell multiplied and divided and, over long periods of time, there
were occasionally mutations. Some of those mutations were beneficial
so that eventually small sea creatures developed; then fish developed;
then a fish crawled onto dry land and land animals started developing.
Eventually apes evolved, and they then evolved into mankind. Evolutionism
says that all life started with minerals and chemicals in the oceans.
They gradually formed life that evolved into the plants and animals
we have today.
So what does the Bible say?
The first book in the Bible begins by telling us how everything
was created. This book is called Genesis.
There is a lot of information in just the Book of Genesis, but
we are going to focus on three main events. The creation of the
universe, the earth and us; the point at which death entered the
world; and we'll look at what happened when God decided things had
gotten so bad that he had to destroy everything and start over.
Once we know what the Bible says about these events, then we'll
start seeing how well these events, as well as evolutionism, fit
with the reality we observe.
The first words in the Bible are:
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
Who is God? We learn about God as we learn about the world and
universe around us. There is one God. You can think of Him as a
person who exists in a place we can not go. He is so powerful that
He just spoke a word and created the universe and us. He is so big
he can hold the universe in one hand. He knows everything, even
the number of hairs on your head.
The Book of Genesis then goes on to describe what was created on
each of six consecutive 24 hour days.
day one God created space, time, light and the earth itself.
On day two God created the atmosphere, separating what was
on earth from what was above the earth.
On day three God created the dry land and plants.
On day four the sun, moon and stars were created. This immediately
brings up a question. If God created light on day one, but didn't
create the sun until day four
where did the light come from?
The Bible does not answer this question. So we don't know for sure,
but some experts have some thoughts on this
Most believe the light came from God Himself. Passages in the Bible
tell us that God is light. For example, the book of 1st John (1:5)
says, "This is the message we have heard from him and declare
to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all."
Other passages in the Bible tell us that God is surrounded by unapproachable
who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable
light, whom no man has seen or can see." -- 1 Tim 6:16.
Isaiah 60:19 we read that the sun and moon are not needed because
God provides everlasting light. "No longer will you have the
sun for light by day, nor for brightness will the moon give you
light; but you will have the LORD for an everlasting light, and
your God for your glory."
Apparently the light on day one may have come directly from God
On day five God created the sea creatures and the flying
On day six God created all of the land animals and man.
By the way, based on the genealogies in the Bible we can determine
that all this-the creation of everything-took place about 6,000
Notice in this drawing that we have giraffes, elephants and there
are also two dinosaurs shown. Are dinosaurs land animals? Yes. What
did God create on day six? He created ALL the land animals. So the
Bible says that the dinosaurs were created on day six-meaning dinosaurs
and man lived together.
We'll be talking about this tomorrow evening, and we'll find out
if the Bible's claim that dinosaurs and man lived together matches
reality or not.
Those are the six days of creation. When God finished creating He
looked at what He had made and He called it very good. There was
no disease. There was no evil in the world. There was no death.
it didn't stay that way.
We now come to the second major event in Genesis, the point at
which evil and death entered the world.
first two people were named Adam and Eve. They lived in a perfect
world, and God had given them just one rule. There was only one
law in this world. God told them "Do not eat from the tree
of the knowledge of good and evil." And God told them the consequences
if they did eat from this tree
they would die. Death would
enter the world.
Everything was fine, but then Satan tempted the woman Eve to eat
the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. And Eve gave
some of the fruit to Adam and he ate it also. Adam and Eve had disobeyed
God's one and only law.
Disobeying God is called sin. This is the point at which sin entered
the world, bringing with it-just as God had said-death. People started
to age. Animals started eating other animals. Diseases started.
Some plants grew thorns. Even the earth itself was affected and
started to deteriorate.
The third event happened about 1650 years after the world was created.
God looked at the world and saw that all of mankind had become corrupt,
wicked and full of violence. It was so bad that God was sorry He
had made mankind in the first place. But there was one righteous
and good man who was named Noah. God decided things were so bad
that He had to wipe mankind off the face of the earth, except for
Noah and his family. God had Noah build a big boat, called an ark,
that was large enough to hold Noah, his family, and two of every
kind of animal and seven of a few kinds of animals.
God opened up the earth, water erupted out of the earth and the
result was a great flood that covered the entire world. The flood
lasted about a year before dry land appeared and Noah, his family
and the animals were able to leave the ark.
I can see some people are thinking that there may be some problems
with this. How could Noah fit all those animals in the ark? Wouldn't
there be way too many animals? Does this story about Noah's ark
conflict with reality?
We have two questions we need answer. How many animals were there
on the ark? And how big was the ark?
The Bible says that Noah was to take two of every TYPE of animal.
For example, he didn't need to take a dog, wolf, coyote and jackal-these
are all different types of dogs. He only needed two dogs. We wouldn't
need to take zebras, donkeys and horses-these are all of one type.
They are all of the horse type. He only needed to take two horses.
It has been calculated that, including animals that are now extinct,
about 8,000 types of animals were on the ark
for a total of
about 16,000 individual animals.
So was the ark big enough to carry 16,000 animals?
Bible provides the dimensions of Noah's ark. So we know what it
looked like and how big it was.
In Biblical terms the ark measured 300 cubits X 50 cubits X 30
cubits. A cubit is the length of a human forearm. That makes the
Ark about 137 meters long X 23 meters wide and 13.7 meters tall.
This gives ark a volume of 43,200 cubic meters. That is the equivalent
of 522 standard railroad livestock cars, each of which can hold
240 sheep-for a total of 125,280 sheep. But, Noah would not have
packed the Ark, floor to ceiling with sheep, so 125,000 animals
is not a realistic number.
The Bible tells us the ark had three interior levels.
If we assume the animals were kept in cages that averaged 75,000
cubic centimeters each-some would be larger some would be smaller,
but that seems like a realistic average, then the 16,000 animals
would occupy roughly 1,200 cubic meters. That's about 15 railroad
cars. The Bible doesn't say anything about insects, but if the insects
also had to be on the ark, they would use space equivalent to another
12 railroad cars. This would leave 495 railroad cars for food, Noah's
family, air space and room for animals to move around. There was
plenty of room on Noah's ark.
Another objection people raise is that Noah's flood was not world-wide,
it was just a local flood. However, that argument just does not
make sense. For example, if it was a local flood, why did God have
Noah build a boat and put all the animals on it? God could have
had Noah and the animals escape the flood by walking up a hill,
and into the next valley. The Bible is describing a world-wide flood.
A frequent question is, if there was a world wide flood, where
did the water come from, AND where did it all go?
The Bible says, "on the 17th day of the second month-on that
day all the fountains of the deep burst forth, and the floodgates
of heaven burst forth."
So the water came from the "fountains of the deep", meaning
there was large amounts of water underground. The Bible is describing
the earth cracking open, which means lots of catastrophic volcanic
activity, and water pouring out of the earth. At the beginning of
Genesis it says that on day three God separated the dry land from
the water. The earth originally was created such that it was covered
by water, and then God separated the waters by raising up dry land.
Now God is apparently reversing the process.
So where did all the water go. It's still here. I have some right
here in this bottle. The earth is 70% covered by water. If the entire
earth's surface was leveled out by smoothing out the topography,
including the topography of the rock surface under the oceans, the
water in the oceans would cover the surface of the earth to a depth
of 2.7 kilometers. When you take a drink of water from your faucet,
you are drinking water from the world wide flood that covered the
earth 4,500 years ago.
These are the key parts of the Bible we'll be discussing--the creation;
the point at which sin and death came into the world, which is commonly
referred to as the fall; and Noah's flood. We'll see if these key
points match reality and answer the questions, where did the universe
come from and where did we come from?
Part I - Introduction, Creationism & Evolutionism
Part II - The Scientific
Part III - Evidence
Support Evolution & Dinosaurs Lived With Man?
Part IV - Dinosaurs In The
Bible & Radioisotope Dating